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Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 159	Posted - 2015.01.01 03:52:24 - [1] - Quote Naturalcause Lemon wrote: I got ganked today in a .7 zone and was told it is illegal for me to mine in high sec without a permit. (according to the new order on some mining bumping site). Plz give me honest answers on how i should continue my solo mining career. Am i really not safe mining anywhere? CODE. is a high-sec ganking alliance. Anything CODE says is Role Play, and shouldn't be taken seriously. So the answer is very simple, and you can absolutely continue solo play. You are not 'fully safe' anywhere, but you can take precautions to ensure that such a thing won't happen so often (if at all). So, add the alliance "CODE." as a contact, and set them to -10.0. When they appear in Local, they'll have a red mark on their portrait, and you'll be able to see it, so you'll know what they're going to do. Dock up preemptively. But the biggest thing you can do is don't be fully AFK. Check your D-Scan every now and then, and browse Local when you feel like it for players with Negative Security Status (positive Security Status players can still gank you, but it's less likely. You always lose Security Status with Highsec ganks). Stay aligned (facing) [insert celestial object here] so you can warp out quickly when you see someone on grid. Getting a Procurer or a Skiff is also a good idea. Do you need a new Barge?
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 159	Posted - 2015.01.01 03:57:50 - [2] - Quote So, no, it is a sandbox game, you are able to do whatever you want, it is not illegal to mine in any part of New Eden. People can of course kill you... Anywhere. So it's up to you to be prepared in advance, and predict the situation ahead. You can 'be safe,' but don't think it is a given right.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 159	Posted - 2015.01.01 04:01:47 - [3] - Quote Naturalcause Lemon wrote: Thats the thing. I understand ganking experienced players who know better and know alot about this game but im pretty new. I mean, ive had this account for a few years, but ive only ever played for like 3 months. After they killed my ship, I have nothing.... I have like an ibis 10 jumps away but thats it... I had a mackinaw.... OK, well, that's probably a bit expensive for me to replace for you. I can't say that I don't feel sorry for you, but EVE provides the tools to PVP anywhere, with whoever, whether they like it or not. Treat it as a learning experience, because you can't not make mistakes. Move onwards, I guess. Tech I Mining Barge is fine, right? I don't... Really... Want to replace a Mackinaw.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 159	Posted - 2015.01.01 04:12:41 - [4] - Quote Naturalcause Lemon wrote: Ive learned so much from you guys especially Memphis. lol Im going to be super cautious and do the steps you provided to ensure better safety. A retriever is fine Memphis. It would be greatly appreciated. I just wanna get back on my feet My name's Ferni, but anyway, you're in Citadel, right? I'll be over that way soon.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 160	Posted - 2015.01.01 05:45:42 - [5] - Quote Naturalcause Lemon wrote: Is there anyway u could send me just enough money to cover a jita priced retriever? Im on the forums on my ipod currently. lol Retriever + Fit and Drones + Salvaging Skills are all waiting in game for you. I also have an EVEmail there for you with additional information on the fit, and where better places to Mine may be.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 160	Posted - 2015.01.01 05:52:58 - [6] - Quote Dradis Aulmais wrote: Joking a corp safety in numbers look at the recruiting forum 'Safety in numbers' >>> More targets. Just sayin'
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 169	Posted - 2015.01.01 12:14:32 - [7] - Quote Kaely Tanniss wrote: Naturalcause Lemon wrote: I got ganked today in a .7 zone and was told it is illegal for me to mine in high sec without a permit. (according to the new order on some mining bumping site). Plz give me honest answers on how i should continue my solo mining career. Am i really not safe mining anywhere? The biggest problem with your statement is "how i should continue my solo mining career." Eve is not a solo game. It's a highly social MMO. With that being said, you are always in danger at anything you do in Eve. I suggest you make some friends, pay attention to local and who lands on grid with you..and use d-scan. If you don't know what these things are or how to use them, that's exactly why Eve isn't a solo game. You need some friendly guidance and advice..but be careful, there are those who give bad advice to new players (assuming you are new). I truly believe that the people who give bad advice are also those that would suggest that you cannot play the game solo. However. You seem to have misinterpreted what he meant. When he says 'solo mining career' he means to mine by himself, and not in a mining fleet or with player corp mates. He has supposedly played for a time-span of under 4 months, so I would assume that he thinks that a player corp is safer/more profitable/better in every other way. A long time ago I used to think the same thing. Friends are fine. Game mechanics are fine. Third-party tools are fine too. You can play the game in any which way and you'll still succeed no less.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 172	Posted - 2015.01.01 23:54:45 - [8] - Quote Zimmy Zeta wrote: While it is a pleasant surprise to see GD being helpful and kind for once in this thread (must be the new year), I have no idea why everyone in here is treating the 3,5 years old OP like a clueless and adorable newbie. I mean, come on, even if he wasn't subscribed the entire time... I, personally, could not care less who I think I am helping. For if someone asks for help, and just might actually need it, then he has it, and not just a whole forum screaming: BAIT! Words are little to no effort, and 50 million is nothing. It's still more enjoyable than reading all the drunk New Year's threads.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 175	Posted - 2015.01.02 02:49:55 - [9] - Quote Aleksi Bocharov wrote: Alana Packham wrote: CODE are a joke, gang up with a few other local miners, fly a skiff, and start charging THEM for entering a system and they will wet themselves and cry to their mommies all night. Actually, if it were me I would just ship into an SFI and do some old school bumping. Oh the rage is glorious when their Skiff goes flying 30km with each gentle nudge. Has anyone bumped a barge with a Higgs Anchor Freighter? That'd be pretty funny.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 175	Posted - 2015.01.02 04:24:24 - [10] - Quote Zetaomega333 wrote: Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote: Naturalcause Lemon wrote: I got ganked today in a .7 zone and was told it is illegal for me to mine in high sec without a permit. (according to the new order on some mining bumping site). Plz give me honest answers on how i should continue my solo mining career. Am i really not safe mining anywhere? CODE. is a high-sec ganking alliance. Anything CODE says is Role Play, and shouldn't be taken seriously. So the answer is very simple, and you can absolutely continue solo play. You are not 'fully safe' anywhere, but you can take precautions to ensure that such a thing won't happen so often (if at all). So, add the alliance "CODE." as a contact, and set them to -10.0. When they appear in Local, they'll have a red mark on their portrait, and you'll be able to see it, so you'll know what they're going to do. Dock up preemptively. But the biggest thing you can do is don't be fully AFK. Check your D-Scan every now and then, and browse Local when you feel like it for players with Negative Security Status (positive Security Status players can still gank you, but it's less likely. You always lose Security Status with Highsec ganks). Stay aligned (facing) [insert celestial object here] so you can warp out quickly when you see someone on grid. Getting a Procurer or a Skiff is also a good idea. Do you need a new Barge? It never has mattered what way you are facing as your time to warp is dependant on how long it takes you to get to warp speed and the direction your ship is facing has no impact on that. It will take the same amount of time if you are facing where you are warping or if you are facing the other way. Is that so? Well I never. I've always assumed your ship gains velocity towards the direction you are aligning when you are facing that direction. I've being totally misinterpreting aligning mechanics. Well, that makes my life ALOT easier. I guess now I've got to delete my 200+ Stargate directional bookmarks. But heck, no matter. Thank you greatly, kind sir.

Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 176	Posted - 2015.01.02 07:54:50 - [11] - Quote Keno Skir wrote: Zetaomega333 wrote: It never has mattered what way you are facing as your time to warp is dependant on how long it takes you to get to warp speed and the direction your ship is facing has no impact on that. It will take the same amount of time if you are facing where you are warping or if you are facing the other way. This isn't true at all. Zetaomega333 you should potentially spend more time learning eve and less teaching it at this stage. Being aligned means you are already moving at or above warp speed in the direction of your warp destination. If you are stationary you will take the same time to reach minimum warp speed regardless which way you were originally facing. That said if you are stationary then you are not aligned (see above). If your ship is moving but not in the direction of your required warp alignment this can either mildly or very seriously effect the time it takes you to actually enter warp. You literally repeated what he had just said. I had thought direction affected align time. In my first post I had meant 'stay aligned' as in stay facing the direction of warp-out. Mining while at warp-out speed is rather daft, as you'd overshoot the Asteroids you are mining rather quickly. I appreciate Zetaomega333 telling me this. Keno Skir wrote: If anyone wants to message me i'll teach you a trick to warp your battleship so fast it doesn't have time to turn around and warps off sideways or even backward :D Warping to the centre of a star isn't that new of a concept.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 177	Posted - 2015.01.02 09:24:34 - [12] - Quote Keno Skir wrote: Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote: In my first post I had meant 'stay aligned' as in stay facing the direction of warp-out. Mining while at warp-out speed is rather daft, as you'd overshoot the Asteroids you are mining rather quickly. 1. You used the word "Aligned" incorrectly so can't really call me out on this. 2. If mining while Actually Aligned seems daft to you, you aren't smart enough to make your own safe's for when you mine. These safes will allow you to be aligned for warp 98% of the time you're mining, you just need one each end of your usual mining systems. I didn't repeat what he said, i added some information that is actually quite relevant to alignment / warping. Regardless if you know enough to notice it Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote: Warping to the centre of a star isn't that new of a concept. You don't know the trick i'm talking about since you can use it to warp anywhere and it involves no stars, quit trying to "beat" me and falling flat on your face. Yeah, I know. I was using the dictionary term, so, apologies. I don't mine for the second point, so, look, I'm not trying to "beat" you at all. I never said that. I had obviously assumed your posting intentions incorrect: Keno Skir wrote: This isn't true at all. Zetaomega333 you should potentially spend more time learning eve and less teaching it at this stage. Because it didn't sound like you were agreeing with him, and you had the same type of information. Quote: Something about Battleships... If you told me the 'trick' I would more than likely know it already. If not, then it probably wouldn't be of any benefit, nor relevant to me. Want to bash me some more? Go ahead.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 179	Posted - 2015.01.02 11:55:50 - [13] - Quote La Rynx wrote: Blah La Rynx, you are becoming a victim of your own suggestion. "Do not talk to them" I thought, you said. You are aware that their posts are to evoke that kind of reaction, so whatever is the reason this bothers you so?
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 180	Posted - 2015.01.02 12:40:39 - [14] - Quote Dominique Vasilkovsky wrote: So how much is one of these permits anyways? 10 million ISK. 310 million if you're a Freighter. Probably about 10 billion ISK if you actually want them to honour it. Or you could just kill them. Y' know, with a Catalyst. A eye for an eye makes the whole world prosperous. Wasn't that how it goes?
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 192	Posted - 2015.01.02 23:02:58 - [15] - Quote admiral root wrote: Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote: And you think your 'expendable' gank ships do not operate with a crew also!? How dare you undermine their efforts to make a career serving on your ship, when you just destroy it immediately? He's not the one comparing RL stuff to in-game stuff. Yeah.. I know... I skim-read the post initially. Bad things happen when you do that.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 192	Posted - 2015.01.02 23:20:15 - [16] - Quote Drinking dinosaur pee? That's cool, but.. A more worse one would be the percent amount of atoms your body has, that was dinosaur poop. I'd rather not know that figure.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 199	Posted - 2015.01.03 09:53:21 - [17] - Quote Tisiphone Dira wrote: E: Mind if I steal that "You wouldn't steal a" bit? It made me laugh. That'd be so much funnier if someone put into the form of the video advertisement. Actually, I could probably do that.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 225	Posted - 2015.01.06 10:27:29 - [18] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: Zimmy Zeta wrote: Solecist Project wrote: Zimmy Zeta wrote: Provence Tristram wrote: They sound like a bunch of jerks. Seriously: high sec AFK mining is a grand EVE tradition. While they are certainly entitled through the sandbox to snuff it out,other players should strike back immediately and swat this fly. The root of all problems. And the afk highsec miners keep waiting and waiting for "other players" to strike back.... Hi Zimmy!! hugs sneezes Hi Sol! I haz a sick..my skull is filled with snot and misery....I'd not recommend e-hugging me right now. Aww....back to bed I guess....have fun, everybody. drops clothes sneaks into your bed hugs you tightly from behind, warming you <3 :) >Gets sick also >Proceeds to infect entire forum through spontaneous hugs from behind with no clothes on > ??? >Profit?! That's how it goes, right?
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 227	Posted - 2015.01.06 11:44:53 - [19] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: You're just jealous, because nobody shows you some love. :/ Envious, I believe is the word you're looking for. The rest of that statement is accurate. Right, back to Photoshop I go. This is taking ages.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 239	Posted - 2015.01.08 23:28:13 - [20] - Quote Z'kroooh Ouau wrote: ISD LackOfFaith wrote: Quote: Forum rules Griefing (repeated targeting of a player with gameplay-denying tactics with no other objective other than to ruin the player's day) is a serious issue, and if you believe you are the target of griefing, please file a support ticket about it. Thank you, and please keep the thread constructive, with minimal slapfighting and namecalling. (Ed: reviewed some of my wording) Now, please tell us of mighty ISD that how suicide ganking is different from griefing? Suicide gank is the definition of griefing. There is no other objective than to ruin players day. There are no objective for making profit, or gaining mining area to their own miners. Quote: Griefing (repeated targeting of a player with gameplay-denying tactics with no other objective other than to ruin the player's day) is a serious issue, and if you believe you are the target of griefing, please file a support ticket about it. Like he said, specific targeting of a player with gameplay denying tactics unto that specific player. Yes the objective is to ruin somebody's day, but it's pretty easy to prevent. It's like me saying: "No, don't target me! I'm only here to fight NPCs in your -1.0 security space! How could you!?"

Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 239	Posted - 2015.01.08 23:55:10 - [21] - Quote 45thtiger 0109 wrote: Naturalcause Lemon wrote: I got ganked today in a .7 zone and was told it is illegal for me to mine in high sec without a permit. (according to the new order on some mining bumping site). Plz give me honest answers on how i should continue my solo mining career. Am i really not safe mining anywhere? Or goto 0.0 if you really want to mine in peace and join a major alliance. But the rules of 0.0 is always keep an eye out in local for hostiles. You're no more at peace than in high security. If you apply the same 'check local' rule to high security, then you'll be well aware of possible ganks. Unfortunately a lot don't... And thus we have continued ganks.